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Coming strictly from the perspective of a Shadow Priest…. no!  Let me elaborate…

Primary Rotation

As it is right now, the spells I use often are Vampiric Touch, Shadow Word: Pain, Mind Blast, and Mind Flay, with Shadow Word: Death thrown in below 20%, Halo only used once every 40 seconds, and Shadowfiend every 3 minutes (plus Power Infusion, which is tied into a macro).

That’s essentially 7 abilities in my main rotation during a boss fight.  Sometimes I will throw in Mind Sear for some AoE if there are a lot of adds.

All The Other Spells

Now, what about everything else? Let me break it down, as I see the abilities best categorized…

CC and/or PVP: Shackle Undead, Void Tendrils, Psychic Horror, Silence, Psychic Scream (5 abilities)

Healing/Support: Mass Dispel,  Dispel Magic, Hymn of Hope, Vampiric Embrace, Binding Heal, Power Word: Shield, Renew, Flash Heal, Prayer of Mending, Void Shift, Life Grip (it can have no other name!) and Symbiosis (Tranquility) if I have it. (11 – 12 abilities)

Other: Power Word: Fortitude, Inner Will, Inner Fire, Mind Vision, Resurrection, Fear Ward, Levitate, Dispersion, Fade, Spectral Guise (10 abilities)

Now, that might seem like a lot of abilities that I don’t count as part of my main rotation, but does that make them abilities I’d want to see disappear?  NO!  In a raid situation, I find myself using almost every single one of those abilities, and if they aren’t used during a raid I can almost guarantee they’re used when I’m soloing.

I have saved the tank multiple times with Void Swap; made dispelling raid members a no-brainer with Mass Dispel; pulled someone out of a deadly beam at the last second with Life Grip; and overall made many, many saves with the support abilities I have in my arsenal.  Do I use every single one of these abilities in every single fight?  Absolutely not.  But I use them plenty often, and when I do use them, they are almost always life-savers.  That’s what I love about being a hybrid class; I have all sorts of abilities at my disposal.  I don’t care how situational they are; in fact, that’s sort of the point!  They’re useful very situationally, but in those situations that they are useful, they’re irreplaceable.

Notable Exceptions

If you’re familiar with Shadow at all, you may have noticed I left out Mind Spike.  To me, if I had to pick something to be removed, this would be it.  As it stands, it does medium damage and wipes all my DOTs.  Without a glyph or talent, Mind Spike becomes almost entirely useless in raids (for me, anyways).  Sure, it has a few upsides – if you need to wipe your DOTs, it does that, and it also is cast-able if you’re shadow locked… if you don’t mind losing whatever DOTs you had up for the sake of getting a cast off – but other than the rarest of situations, it’s not very useful.  Again, this is specifically speaking for the build and glyph set I choose to use, but it’s still the first I’d choose to go.

Other than Mind Spike, Inner Will and Renew are the other two spells I find myself using very rarely.  That’s it.  The rest of my spells, I would never actively choose to get rid of.

A Small Digression

I must take a minute to point out one thing: I don’t think it would be nearly as easy to organize my spells and know what I’m doing without an action bar addon.  Sure, I could make the best of it, but I think that the amount of abilities we have requires a degree of flexibility with placement that the default UI doesn’t offer.  I organized the abilities very specifically in my post, and I do so in game.  I think a move-able UI and more bars are long overdue as part of the default package.

In Summation…

Sure, I have a lot of spells.  And sure, a large portion of those are situational.  But that’s part of the reason I chose a hybrid spec; I love having all these different support abilities at my disposal.  There are a very small number of abilities I’d get rid of if I had to, but other than maybe 3 I wouldn’t give away any of the spells I have right now in favor of less clutter.  I don’t need things simplified.  I like knowing when to use what, and how to get the most out of that usage.


I have probably leveled 3 or 4 paladins to 60 or beyond since they first became available to the Horde. It started back in BC when Retribution was extremely overpowered and I could just tear through whatever I wanted with ease. For one reason or another though – on this paladin and every one that followed it – I always made it somewhere around 60-70ish before deleting the character to make more room on my selection screen.

It’s not that I dislike paladins; I actually like leveling them quite a bit (which may explain why I’ve done it so many times…) But what has struck me about leveling multiple paladins is just how different they are every time I level them.

In my most recent attempt to level a paladin, something dawned on me: my priest has been my main since Vanilla and I can’t remember the last time I actually leveled another priest. I have no idea what priest leveling is like nowadays. If someone asks me what priests are like, I speak end-game, and really end-game only. It never even dawned on me that recommending a class to a new player should involve a comment on the leveling experience itself, and not just what the class is like at the level cap. I have no idea when key abilities come, or how well a low-level priest survives, or really much about the leveling experience for priests at all nowadays. It’s not a game-changing revelation but it’s something that dawned on me and made me realize an entirely new aspect of my class with which I need to acclimate myself.

So if/when someone out there reads this, here’s a question for you: do you have any clue what the leveling experience is like for your main class?


Let me just start by saying very emphatically: yes!!!

Levels are great. In fact, they’re one of my favorite aspects of a new expansion.

Obviously, not everyone may feel the same, but for me an expansion would not be the same without levels. Ever since Wrath, I have made it a “tradition” to play the game right when midnight (or 3am..) rolls around and race to hit the new max level as quickly as possible. I know the “realm first!” mindset places me in a minority, but that doesn’t make me love it any less, and damn it all if Blizzard ever took that experience away from me.

Less personally speaking though, I think leveling serves many functional purposes as well. For starters, it gives players a real sense of accomplishment as they are moving through new content. The prestige may be diminished more so in recent expansions, but seeing someone at max level still is a way to know that character has gone through the leveling process and pushed through the grind. Aside from maybe gear, level is the first thing other players notice. Losing new levels would lessen that distinction and just take away from a sense of accomplishment and progression.

Moreover, without levels, what is there to do at an expansion’s release? Imagine Mist being released without new levels and jumping straight into the daily grind. The leveling process separated those two things and gave players a reason to quest before working to perfect their character.

“But wait!” you might say. “You could easily make a new expansion that just focused on the story without the levels! 5.1 did that and it worked great!”

To this I say, “then why not throw in levels anyways?” Seriously, Blizzard always adds new zones to an expansion. If they are going to tell a story, why not let us level as we progress through that story? 5.1 may have shown story doesn’t need levels, but in all honesty, the achievement progress was essentially a replacement for levels. It’s all the same, but the levels themselves really push things along and make players feel good about what they’ve accomplished.

No, more levels certainly isn’t a bad thing. The problem – (and I’m sorry, I’m about to stray a bit from the topic) – is the sum total amount of levels needed to hit the cap.

If we get 10 levels in the next expansion, that’s a full 100 levels before a new player is maxed out. That’s pretty daunting, especially considering the size of the world.

Blizzard has made steps to make it easier, but the result has been a sort of ridiculous disparity between “recommended levels” for zones and actual player levels.

While not a complete fix, I think it would be an incredible step in the right direction if Blizzard allowed players to level in whatever zones they pleased. Scale up or down player stats to fit the “level range” of a zone so players can experience what zones and stories they want, when they want to (with the “current content” being a possible exception). Your effective level is determined by experience, everything else is determined by the zone you are in. This would also help players level together no matter what effective level they were. The only time you have to leave a zone is when you’re out of quests. Wanna hit 85 without touching the Cataclysm zones and stay in Northrend instead? Go ahead! Love Outland and wish it lasted longer? Stay and finish the zones then!

It’s not necessarily the perfect solution – after all, 100 levels is still 100 levels – but it’s still a system the game sure couldn’t hurt from having. And while it may be a bit of a diversion from the original topic, it all ties back to the leveling experience in general: new levels on their own aren’t a bad thing. New levels + all the old ones, expansion after expansion? That is only going to become more and more overwhelming with each new addition to the game.

(Edit:  For reference, the original question was posed at http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/08/15/community-blog-topic-do-we-need-more-levels/ in reference to this post from Sportsbard)


For starters, this post is all about shadow priests, so I apologize to anyone who is not familiar with the class.  Additionally, even if you are familiar with the class, I’ll probably be using some lingo, so here’s a quick rundown…

  • DP = Devouring Plague
  • MB = Mind Blast
  • MF = Mind Flay
  • MS = Mind Spike
  • SW:P = Shadow Word: Pain
  • SW:D = Shadow Word: Death
  • VE = Vampiric Embrance
  • VT = Vampiric Touch

Okay, now that that’s out of the way, let’s get down to what this is all about: the biggest problem with shadow (as I see it).  What is this problem, you ask?  To put it simply, throughout all the expansions nothing has really changed with the class.

Oh sure, shadow has “changed” a lot since it originally became viable as a PVE spec (back in the Burning Crusade expansion), but these changes have more been a re-shuffling of the class than actual changes to the class.

Let me break it down…

Burning Crusade

During BC, shadow priests were finding themselves more wanted in raids than any other time since then.  The reason for this was the “mana battery” aspect of the class.  Casting VT on a target meant that 5% of the damage dealt was returned as mana, for you and the rest of your party.  This was huge for healers, and mana users in general.  But this is just the primary aspect of shadow in BC.

In terms of actual rotation, shadow priests typically DOT’d a mob, cast MB and SW:D on cooldown, and used MF as a filler.  If you were an undead shadow priest, you had one extra DOT to cast with DP, but overall, the idea behind the class was “keep two DOTs up, use two other cooldown spells, and MF as filler.  Then, Wrath hit…

Wrath of the Lich King

In Wrath, what changed for shadow priests?  VT no longer returned mana based on damage dealt.  Instead, casting MB on a target afflicted with VT gave the party a Replenishment buff, which returned mana over time (note that Replenishment was not just something shadow priests could bring, as it was given to other classes as well).  In terms of other changes, racials went away and many spells became baseline.  The key change here was that DP became available to all shadow priests, but was limited to one target at a time.

So overall, this meant that our rotation was pretty much the same with the addition of one DOT, which could not be used for multi-DOTing.  We also lost our uniqueness when it came to the beloved “mana battery” aspect, but kept the spirit of “DOT, cooldown, filler”.  Cataclysm didn’t do much to change things, either.

Cataclysm

In Cataclysm, a few changes were made but things were still mostly kept the same.  Priests were given a pretty hefty healing cooldown with Divine Hymn, the priest equivalent of druids’ tranquility, which added back some utility to shadow (but also took us out of Shadowform if cast).  The other major change was the way MF functioned with SW:P.  If SW:P was cast on a target, using MF on that target had a chance to refresh the duration of SW:P.  Basically, it meant if you were single-targetting, you had to cast SW:P once, and were set for most of the fight.  A small change was made with the addition of Mind Spike.  Unfortunately, MS was primarily used as an opener, as it would remove any DOTs on the target.

In addition to this, Mastery was added in the form of Shadow Orbs.  The use of certain abilities would consume shadow orb charges to increase the damage done by your DOTs.  In terms of min/maxing this meant that experienced shadow priests would have to make sure to cast their DOTs at the right time to make the most out of their mastery.  Timing changed, but rotation still stayed essentially the same.

Overall, our rotation in Cataclysm was reduced back to “two DOTs, MB and SW:D on cooldown, MF filler”.

Mists of Pandaria

Now, we’ve arrived at Mists, where (arguably) a lot of things “changed” for shadow.  We lost our passive healing from VE and it became a cooldown that returned health based on damage done.  It lasts a much shorter duration, but heals for quite a bit more; however, as I said, the passive healing is gone.  This made for an interesting change, but unfortunately was countered by the removal of Divine Hymn.  On the surface, it was a change.  Upon closer look though, it was Divine Hymn with a new look.

Shadow Orbs changed in Mists as well.  They were now a resource gained from MB and SW:D, the latter of which could now only be used on mobs below 20% health.  Shadow Orbs can be “spent” to cast DP now, which has a much shorter duration.

Replenishment was also removed from our repertoire in Mists, which meant our only way to return mana was through Hymn of Hope (a support ability we’ve had since Wrath).

To be fair, these changes seem pretty big at a glance.  The problem, the same problem that has continued through the expansions, is the lack of real change to the class.

Mists still has up keep only two DOTs up at once.  MB is still our cooldown ability, with MF as a filler.  At 20% and higher, DP is now a substitute cooldown ability in place of SW:D.  Below 20%, the only difference is the return of SW:D on a 6-or-8-second cooldown.  Halo is the only real change to our rotation, and it is on an incredibly long cooldown and quite frankly isn’t really something that feels like it’s “in” the rotation.

Even MS, which was once a good opener, has to be talented and/or glyphed to find itself even slightly useful.

Shadow is still the same spec it has always been.  It is not “bad” by any means, but it just isn’t changing.  And while extremely rapid change isn’t a good thing, no change at all (or “changes” that or essentially just re-shufflings) becomes boring.

So What Can Be Done?

This isn’t something I have an easy answer to, but I at least have an idea that could be a start: change MS to something completely different.  One of the problems I didn’t touch on too much in this post was the lack of mobility shadow priests are experiencing.  My proposal is that MS stop removing DOTs, and be made an ability that can be cast while moving.  It might not solve the “just standing” rotation problem we have at the moment, but it would change things up for fights where we are on the move, and would also be a good way to make MS useful again.

The other potential change could involve Shadow Orbs.  Currently they’re used for DP and Psychic Horror, the latter of which isn’t really used in PVE very much (and certainly never part of a rotation).  Finding a way to incorporate them into other spells, or more ideally a brand new spell, would make them seem more meaningful.  Heck, you could even combine this idea with the first and have MS do increased damage AND be use-able while moving if cast with 3 Shadow Orbs.  Something to make them more than a gimmicky reason to cast DP.

It is not a solution, but it is a start.  This post is mostly out here to bring about discussion and awareness to what I am finding to be the biggest issue facing shadow today.  Please feel free to comment with thoughts, ideas, etc.  Agree, disagree, I do not care; this is a place for discussion, so let’s discuss!


So by now, most WoW folk who would ever visit a site like this are probably familiar with the interview wherein Ghostcrawler (or “Ghost Crab” as I’ll forever call him from now on*) mentioned the consideration of a “buff” class/role. Now, I interpreted his words to imply a buff “role” rather than “class” and that got me thinking about the possibility of adding a 4th spec (and maybe a 5th for Druids) to the game that could help serve as this buff role.

Now, before I get into what a buff role might be like, let me explain why I think a 4th spec is a cool idea in the first place.

For starters, it helps to avoid over-populating the game with yet another class. So far the game has had 2 major class additions, bringing the total number of classes up to 11. While I don’t doubt Blizzard’s ability to make a new class interesting and unique, it’s starting to feel like adding a new class is just a way to draw attention to a new feature. It’s cool, and unique, but not entirely necessary. Maybe even a bit redundant.

Secondly, it means that to experience the “new class” existing players wouldn’t have to start an alt, level all the way up, and the decide at max level if they want a new main, or to go back go their old one. If you as a player love your class and love the particular toolkit available to you, you wouldn’t have to abandon your precious shadow priest you’ve been playing 7 years just to try out the new feature. All it would take is a respec and some practice and you get to experience the new spec right from the comfort of your class.

Lastly, it would add a new dynamic to the game that changes things more than a new class itself ever could. Think about it: an entirely new role. Blizzard hasn’t exactly been afraid to shake things up in the past, and a 4th role to consider for dungeons, raids, etc. is certainly a way to shake things up. But of course, that’s where the difficult actually comes in: what would a “buff” role be like in practice?

This is where I’m thinking out loud more than anywhere else, and it’s also where I’d like outside input. For me, a buff role would probably come closest to what shadow priests were in BC, maybe combined with what paladins were like in Vanilla. And hey, let’s throw in a little Disc. priest/Mistweaver monk in there as well. What exactly do I mean by that?

For those not familiar, shadow priests in BC returned mana to groups based on their damage output. What this meant is that they were invaluable to raid groups. The healer group needed a shadow priest. What it also meant was that shadow wasn’t ever going to top the damage meters. What it excelled at in utility, it suffered in pure output. And quite frankly, that was fine by me. I knew I would never top meters but I also knew I was a necessary member of the raid. Of course, what this eventually led to was Blizzard feeling “raid stacking” was becoming too important and implementing the “bring the player not the class” mantra. So how would a buff role avoid this pitfall?

Pretty much the same way it did in Wrath. A replenishment-style system of raid buffing via damage. Think of it like this for a moment: a buff role would be available to multiple classes. Each buff-specced class could use damage output to provide raids with multiple buffs (more so than just mana return). Lets say a “buff” warrior at maximum output provides the raid with a nice health boost. Or a “buff” mage doing its job allows a temporary buff of the raid that functions like a mini-Time Warp.

In other words, picture all the current buffs available, only slightly more interesting and dependent on the performance of a buff role. The buff role-er wouldn’t be topping meters, but his/her presence is what keeps the raid chugging along at maximum efficiency.

I know it might sound weird right now, but it’s an idea in progress. And coming from someone who played shadow back when damage had a direct correlation to health and mana returned, I feel the dynamic is certainly one that could help the game. It is a work in progress but still something I like the idea of very much. And at the very least, opens the discussion for a new spec to be added to the classes.  A “buff” role might not work for every class, but for those that don’t there is always the possibility of adding a 4th spec, even if it’s not a new role.

Of course, there are a lot of concerns this could bring up:  First and foremost, would this type of role be fun?  Even if it is fun, would enough people want to play it?  And in terms of gameplay, how easy would it be to balance around adding an entirely new role to the game?

I don’t have an answer to the last question (I’ll leave that up to Blizzard) but the first two, I honestly do think “yes!”  People have their preferences, and I doubt I’d be alone in enjoying this type of role (if I am alone, then I guess I’m just weird).

*I may not actually call him Ghost Crab forever.


Welcome to my blog of all things WoW! Or, maybe not all things WoW, but certainly of some things WoW! And maybe some only-kind-of-related-to-WoW things.

The point is, this is a WoW blog and right now I’m entirely unsure of what direction it will take. And I like that! Hopefully over time it will become refined and fall into a rhythm but before that happens, feel free to tag along for the ride and help me through the process!

No seriously, I would love it if this becomes more than just me thinking out loud to myself. Please feel free to comment (good or bad) on, well, anything! Individual posts, the look of the blog, whatever! I’m all ears (and fingers too, I guess, since it’s a blog…)

Anyways! That’s my not-quite-first first post on here! I appreciate the company and hope this will turn into something great! 🙂

-Fizzl